Berengevecht tussen Roubini en ZeroHedge

It’s all happening on Twitter heden ten dage. Daar vinden de interessante discussies plaats. Via @RubenvdGun kwam ik (@K_Dil) terecht bij een reeks tweets tussen de Nouriel Roubini en de Amerikaanse website ZeroHedge. Interessante materie.

Twee beren met elkaar in gevecht op Twitter over inflatie, deflatie, stagflatie, geldcreatie en onze economische toekomst, Willem Middelkoop komt ook nog even tussen beide:

Nouriel Nouriel Roubini

Hyperinflation! So much for hysterical claims that Fed policy & QEs will cause massive inflation “@zerohedge: PPI up 0.2%, exp. 0.1%”

Nouriel Nouriel Roubini

Expect disinflationary & deflationary pressures in G3 once a double dip increases the slack in goods, labor, housing & commodity markets

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@Nouriel Or claims that gold as an inflation hedge will tumble…

Nouriel Nouriel Roubini

If China double dips global deflationary pressures as its glut of capacity is dumped globally & commodity price crash bit.ly/riuS7u

Nouriel Nouriel Roubini

As in 2008-09 once we double dip we will get Stag-Deflation (Recession + Deflation) rather than Stagflation. There is no inflation in sight

Nouriel Nouriel Roubini

Thus bond mkt prices coming disinflation as UK double dips “@zerohedge: U.K. 10-Year Yield Lowest Since Bloomberg Records Begin in 1989″

Nouriel Nouriel Roubini

Correlation btw gold prices & inflation is negative. Gold prices were surging in 2008-2010 while G3 economies were gripped in deflation

Nouriel Nouriel Roubini

Consumers shopped out will lead to deflation”@hrteaparty: @Nouriel somebody doesn’t do their own grocery shopping! We can’t afford anything”

Nouriel Nouriel Roubini

Not yet as many EMs are still overheating. But yes after G3 double dip “@chondhe: @Nouriel will that be true for emerging markets as well?”

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@Nouriel Depression leads to deflation which leads to central printers being put into overdrive

Nouriel Nouriel Roubini

Question for @zerohedge: what are the bond markets in US, UK. Japan, Germany pricing with historically low yields? Inflation or Deflation?

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@Nouriel The same thing record gold is probably pricing in

Nouriel Nouriel Roubini

So explain Jap stuck in deflation 4 20yr @zerohedge: Depression leads to deflation which leads to central printers being put into overdrive

Nouriel Nouriel Roubini

You folks at @zerohedge have been crying the inflation wolf for 4 years now in a period of massive deflation. Depression causes deflation

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@Nouriel SocGen explained it far better than we can: is.gd/RswvFY

Nouriel Nouriel Roubini

Question 4 @zerohedge: massive global supply glut as China overinvested; lack of demand given delevering in G3. Thus inflation or deflation?

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@Nouriel Zero Hedge has been “crying” currency devaluation. Slight difference. Alas, we have been correct.

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@Nouriel This may be of interest bpp.mit.edu/usa/

Nouriel Nouriel Roubini

Gold as good as Spam in 4casting prices @Yalman_BN:two conflicting signs. Gold demand pricing in inflation; low bond yields signal deflation

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@Nouriel luckily the CME can not hike spam margins

Nouriel Nouriel Roubini

As in 2008-09 rising commodity prices will causes stagdeflation rather than stagflation as TOT shock leads to demand destruction & doubedip

wmiddelkoop willem middelkoop

@zerohedge @nouriel ..can we do this every day? ..love it

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Gold breaking out

wmiddelkoop willem middelkoop

@zerohedge ..deflationary

Nouriel Nouriel Roubini

If a currency is weaker another is stronger: they cant be all weak @zerohedge: ZH has been “crying” currency devaluation. Slight difference

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@Nouriel they can all be weaker in absolute terms relative to that which you can not print… be it spam or gold

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@Nouriel although granted executive order 6102 did not confiscate spam…

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RT @Not_Jim_Cramer “Correlation btw gold prices & inflation is negative” WTF? empirical corr. is +49% twitpic.com/67hfip since 1971

Nouriel Nouriel Roubini

Once back in depression CME will replace gold with Spam futures. US repealed gold in ’33 @zerohedge:luckily the CME cannot hike spam margins

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@Nouriel The right word is confiscated. Nothing like freedom of choice to decide what the right currency is

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